I felt an urge to re-watch the film above (The Perverts' Guide to Cinema) when I got home which I did. The title is misleading -- it's about ideology and a famous philosophy professor uses illustrations from various films around the world to illustrate the relationship between people an ideology. My take is that memetics does the same thing, but with more rigor and specificity than the (excellent) dialect that this professor guy was laying down.
Anyway, it's on NetFlix if you're interested.
PS: one breakthrough I had since our chat and re-watching the movie was the relationship between those "resonation points" (those exclamation points in little boxes that are stimulated by memes generated by others -- I need to decide on a name and a symbol for these), the conscious mind, the double-wired "monkey see, monkey do" brain, idiometic systems (touched on in my comics -- "interpersonal" memetic systems might also be a good name), "regular" or interpersonal memetic systems, and group identification. These all tie, together, into a consistent theoretical system which models and explains a lot of things that I have been puzzling over. It's nice when a bunch of messy stuff is discovered to in fact perhaps be interrelated and a simple consistent theory emerges to tie them all together.
Music as the purest and highest form of meme -- pure imitation
without reference to the corporeal. A song is also a MIAO or close to
it, so can anchor memes and memories very economically.
Ideomemetic
systems and intergenerational oppression. The brain delights in
witnessing the imitation of something familiar, of a familiar meme that
it already knows. This is the biological basis which drives the brain to
acquire memes, to participate in memetic interactions. Our own brain
pathways are stimulated by witnessing a meme, because the monkey see,
monkey do pathways resonate both by watching and by performing.
So
we need at new object: the resonation point. This is a part of the
brain which is stimulated by witnessing a meme (or be performing it) and
which can result in the activation of a memetic state, which makes one
more receptive to the reception and production of new sets of memes, ie,
new memes and resonances become available, and this is the memetic
basis for group identification. Special Groups are where a higher number
of one's resonances are stimulated AND where more of one's generated
memes resonate in others. And more and more meme and resonance-rich
memetic states are activated. This is the memetic explanation for
fanaticism. One alienated a large part of the world in order to achieve a
higher level of memetic interaction, of stimulation, from a smaller
number of others.
Monkey see, monkey do and
memetic resonators provide a similar explanation for intergenerational
abuse and oppression among individuals, families, and peoples. Abuser
and abused create memes and resonators in the course of practicing the
abuse. It is a meme in which only one side is actively performing the
act of imitation (although the "victim" also enacts memes in the abuse
scenario), but both acquire the memes and the resonances (recognizers?
Eyeball with or without exclamation mark -- mark indicates activation or
closed eye represents non-activation?) and so there is a rich memetic
state which is similar between both abuser and abused, ie, the same
memes and recognizers, so effectively either one can assume either role,
so we see the abused becoming the abuser later and passing on the
memetic sub-system of abuse to the next generation. We wonder why the
Isarelis seem to treat the Palestinians the same as the Nazis treated
them, wonder at why they don't see this is wrong, and perhaps this
offers an explanation.
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