2014-09-28

模倣子 Fashion Victims

He does make the point that the discussion does exclude men, i.e., that men are also made to feel bad about their looks and the way they dress by the media.  This is absolutely true.  Even going only by the fact that men are nowhere mentioned as being "fashion victims" and the "tone" of the discussion is that it only happens to women.  That's wrong.

Oh yeah, trying to help women feel "secure" DOES take away from men if men are blamed and demonized in the process or men's same or similar problems are ignored or minimized.  Oh wait, that never happens....NOT!

As for being "fat", young men are beaten up and driven to suicide for being the "fat kid" (and that term connotes a boy, not a girl, as I'm sure we know).  I don't know if that's what happens to overweight girls.  Anybody read "Lord of the Flies"?  That's what really happens.

Yes, "Feminism" is meant to be about equality.  No kidding.  Everybody knows that.  Please ease up on the condescension -- they have on-line dictionaries these days, I've heard.  It's the current IMPLEMENTATION that is the problem.  The Nazis and the Communists were also "about" a bunch of good stuff, and we saw where that went.  Just saying you're "about" something doesn't make you that thing, and you have to take a regular spiritual inventory of what you're REALLY doing, and a lot of people ARE being hurt by the actions (and inactions) of self-described "Feminists".

(I have long considered myself to be a feminist, and I take real risks to do real things that help real women, and have for decades, but I've recently started strongly considering for the first time dropping the term "Feminist" since people who use the term are doing some really ugly things that I'm afraid are going to make me start hating women or something, and I don't want that).

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its amazing how everything becomes about women only, as if there is no pressure or desire on men to be tall dark and handsome. i see feminisst trying to define themselves as oppressed at every corner. but if you ask a feminist whats the origins of feminism, who are the key figures, who do they for, y was it started, any intellegent being if you look at the fact, feminism hurts everyone. the economy, education, and most of all the family unit.. lets not forget, woman have male children too, its 2013, wake up. feminsm was built to destroy the family, and woman are helping them out. look at feminism ojectiveley and its preety clears its not only discrimanation its of no good to any of us. period. i know you ladies are gonna jump all over this post and i welcome you to do so, i beleive in peoples rights, not just the rights of a gender or a group. and if you would like info and evidence of my claims of how hurtful feminism is i be glad to give you some hard cold facts,

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Ahh, you’re one of the ‘feminism hurts everyone’ men. If you want to be taken seriously, you should probably learn to spell. I am now dumber for having read your post. You have contradicted yourself in your post, and your arguments make no sense.

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If you're going just be gratuitously insulting, you might try making it clever and funny.

Since minor spelling departures seem to make it impossible for you to comprehend a text, I'll take a stab at rephrasing.

Among his points:

1. It's always all about women, and that's amazing.
1.1. Men are not mentioned at all as having body and fashion worries or societal shaming to do with these, and that's simply false.
1.2. This piece implies that that is the case, i.e., that women are somehow "targeted"

Have you ever seen He-Man, Conan the Barbarian, GI Joe, or even "Ken" (Barbie wa Ken yori mo tsuyoshi ;-) ?

2. Feminists seem to define themselves as victims at every corner.
2.1. Isn't this obvious?
2.2. Inveighing about female circumcision in Africa when the same number of men are being genitally mutilated in our own country
2.3. That "misogynist shooting" in which four men were killed and two women, and it's somehow evidence that "misogyny kills" and there's a crisis of hatred of women
2.4. One could go on "post nauseam" (yes, Lucy, before you jump on that one, it's a Latin play on words on the expression "ad nauseam" i.e., "to the point of nausea" changed to "beyond the point of nausea")
2.5. One more classic: Eve Ensler's "The Vagina Monologues" states that the clitoris has 8,000 nerve endings, "twice as many as the penis". She neglects to mention that that's a CIRCUMCIZED PENIS, an intact one having some 24,000 - 30,000 nerve endings, or 3 - 4 times that of the clitoris.  This is wrong on so many levels I don't know where to start.  Is it lying, is it stupidity, laziness, not caring, bullshitting, poor science, deliberate distortion to further one's agenda / sell tickets...I don't know.

3. Equality is about the rights of all genders, not just one.
3.1. Duh.
3.2. Feminist expositions seem to love to imply that whichever "bad thing" only happens to (white) women, failing to mention the corresponding stats for men (I could tell you stories).
3.3. There's only ONE men's shelter (in southern California, inland) in the whole USA, but men are know to be equally the victims of "domestic violence"). I'm guessing that there are more than one women's shelter, and by my first grade math training, that's UNequal.

4. He said that "Feminism hurts everybody"
4.1. He said that feminism was started for [disingenuous purposes].  An interesting question, I would say, but probably ultimately unanswerable.
4.2. The practice of "Feminism" these days definitely harms men.
4.3. The dialectics bandied about by self-described "Feminists" are often deeply flawed and pose grave potential harm to individuals and society if taken seriously.

5.  He said he has "cold, hard facts" -- how about you ask for them instead of immediately hurling insults?

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